Subject:
Treating Shake and Shingle Siding Topic:
SidingQuestion:
Dear George,
My house has just been resided with red cedar shakes. In the planning stages of this project, the subject of pre-treatment came up, i.e., dipping the bundles of shakes into a preservative or stain. The men who did the project assured me that red cedar didn't need any pre-treatment, especially as I'm having a standing-seam copper roof put on soon as well. They said that rain washing over the copper and onto the shakes would help preserve their already self-preserving qualities.
I was watching "This Old House" last night and was alarmed to see a sample of non-treated red cedar shakes siding after many years. It looked awful - blotchy black and dark orange. They recommended bleaching oil to solve that problem. My shakes are brand new so I assume that I don't need bleaching oil, but I gather now that I do need some sort of protection for them. Is it too late? What about warping and decaying due to partial coverage. What would be the best thing to put on them now, if any - stain? semi-transparent stain? Paint? Needless to say, I'm really scared - this was expensive. And while we're talking about expense, I just heard from a builder friend that copper rooves don't hold up to acid rain. I'd thought that copper would not only be beautiful, especially as it aged, but hold up forever. Have I just made the most expensive mistakes I could possibly have made?
With much appreciation for any encouraging words and advice you might be able to offer, I am Sincerely yours, Meg
- Meg from South Acworth, NH
Answer:
You are correct about the need to protect the cedar siding from a number of factors including fungal organisms and light damage. But the fact that you didn't have the shingles treated before installation is not critical.
With very few exceptions, all wood siding needs to be treated with a stain or paint. This includes: shingles, shakes, lap, drop siding, and even log homes. The wood needs to be protected from a number of of conditions. Your contractor may have been correct in assuming that the copper oxide from the roof may help reduce fungal growth on the siding, but failed to realize that ultraviolet light, wind, rain and airborne polutents will also damage raw wood and that the copper oxide will have little impact on those factors.
The copper oxide might even stain the wood in an uneven manner if it is allowed to run down the siding. But don't get me wrong, a properly installed copper roof should last for a very long time and my guess is that the impact from the acid rain is going to be of concern to the future generations that will own your house.
The idea of having the bundles of shakes or shingles dipped before installation is a bit of an oversimplification. In most cases, a simple dipping of this type would not have provided for an even application of the stain or wood preservative and the siding would still have had to be coated after installation.
I would urge you to have the siding stained or painted in the next year or two. The best method would employ a spraying and back brushing. This allows for the stain or paint to enter almost all of the cracks between the siding and for good distribution. This is a two person job: one on the spray gun the other with the brush.
I had this done on my newly shingled cabin in 1993. They used a linseed based transparent stain and applied two coats. I have been watching it ever since and it still looks great! However, my cabin is not exposed to a lot of wind and sun and I would expect that in most cases a transparent stain would have to be re-coated in about 5 years. Heavier bodyied stains and paints should last longer.
I hope this helps. Thank you for using our Express Service.
George
Thank You!
Hi George, I found my question and your answer. Thank you so much for the thorough and reassuring information you gave. What a relief to find out that I can still protect my cedar siding, and that the copper roof will last at least my lifetime. I'm going to give a page printed with your information to my painter, who said he could treat the siding next spring. I found your web site by searching the web for any site that included "red cedar shakes." There were dozens of sites and so it was by luck that I tried yours. I really appreciate the help and am very happy to know that there's such an expert source for me to go to with future renovation questions.
Thanks again, Meg
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